Dame Jenni Murray has hit back at people calling her anti-trans in an interview with GB News presenter Nigel Farage.
The former Woman's Hour presenter told Nigel: "So many people have been confused about the difference between sex and gender and that was really what made me cross the first time.
"I was one of the early ones to get into trouble for it and people keep accusing me of being a trans-exclusionary radical feminist (TERF). I'll take the feminist but I won't take the radical," said Dame Murray.
Dame Jenni Murray
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Nigel Farage
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She explained: "A woman with a husband and two sons can't call herself a radical feminist really can she? I am not trans exclusionary by any means."
Dame Jenni gave her opinion of politicians who fail to answer questions on what a women is: "I am angry about the suggestion you could change your sex, you could stop referring to women as women and refer to them as 'period-havers' or 'bleeders' and all those ridiculous things like talking about breastfeeding as 'chest-feeding'. You can't change the language or erase women."
Asked if a woman can have a penis, Sir Keir Starmer said: “I’m not… I don’t think we can conduct this debate with… I don’t think that discussing this issue in this way helps anyone in the long run.
“What I want to see is a reform of the law as it is, but I am also an advocate of safe spaces for women and I want to have a discussion that is… Anybody who genuinely wants to find a way through this, I want to discuss that with, and I do find that too many people – in my view – retreat or hold a position of which is intolerant of others.
“And that’s not picking on any individual at all, but I don’t like intolerance, I like open discussion.”
Angela Rayner, Labour's deputy leader, said it was not acceptable to ask people about their genitalia in the discussion on trans rights.
Nigel Farage agreed with the Woman's Hour star: "I think there's a fightback coming, I really do."