David Amess' alleged killer tells court he 'can't say anything bad' about 'brother' Jihadi John

Court sketch of Ali Harbi Ali
Court sketch of Ali Harbi Ali

Ali Harbi Ali said he wanted to kill Sir David to stop him “harming Muslims” in Syria

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A homegrown terror suspect accused of murdering veteran MP Sir David Amess in a church said he wanted to kill a politician to stop him “harming Muslims” in Syria.

Ali Harbi Ali told jurors at the Old Bailey he wanted to “make hijrah”, to travel and fight in support of ISIS, but he found it too difficult to get there.

The 26-year-old stabbed Sir David more than 20 times with a foot-long carving knife at Belfairs Methodist Church in Leigh-on-Sea, Essex, shortly after midday on October 15, 2021, the court was told.

Sir David died at the scene.

The university drop-out is said to have been motivated to kill the veteran Southend West Conservative and father-of-five because of a grievance with MPs who voted in favour of bombing Syria.

His previous targets included Cabinet minister Michael Gove.

Screen grab from CCTV issued by Metropolitan Police of Ali Harbi Ali in Westminster on September 22 2021, which was shown to the jury at the Old Bailey
Screen grab from CCTV issued by Metropolitan Police of Ali Harbi Ali in Westminster on September 22 2021, which was shown to the jury at the Old Bailey

Giving evidence from the witness stand on Thursday, Ali said he decided to kill Sir David because of his previous voting record on the UK’s foreign policy, including air strikes on Syria.

Ali told the court: “I decided to do it because I felt that if I could kill someone who made decisions to kill Muslims, it could prevent further harm to those Muslims.

“He voted previously in Parliament, not just him… I decided if I couldn’t make hijrah, if I couldn’t help the Muslims (in Syria), I would do something here.”

Asked what difference killing Sir David would make, Ali said: “For one, he can’t vote again.

“If he had previous for doing votes like that he won’t do it in the future, and perhaps send a message to his colleagues.”

Screen grab from CCTV issued by Metropolitan Police of Ali Harbi Ali in Westminster on September 22 2021, which was shown to the jury at the Old Bailey
Screen grab from CCTV issued by Metropolitan Police of Ali Harbi Ali in Westminster on September 22 2021, which was shown to the jury at the Old Bailey

Ali was asked why he had a note on his phone about his “plans” to kill Mr Gove.

Ali said: “That was plans I had to attack and hopefully kill Michael Gove at the time.

“I believe he was someone who was a harm to Muslims.

“I thought if I couldn’t go join ISIS, I should try and do something here to help Muslims here.”

Ali had managed to arrange an appointment with Sir David, 69, by duping the politician’s office into believing he was a healthcare worker moving to the area and wished to discuss local matters.

Ali told the court it was very likely he was carrying a knife in his rucksack when he was spotted on CCTV outside the Houses of Parliament in the months before he killed Sir David.

He also referred to Jihadi John – also known as Mohammed Emwazi, a British executioner with Islamic State – as “a brother”.

He said: “I can’t say anything bad about him.”

Ali denied prosecutor Tom Little QC’s suggestion he was a radical Muslim, insisting: “I am a moderate Muslim.”

The trial previously heard how Ali allegedly spent years hatching his plot, researching a number of potential high-profile political targets including Mr Gove, Dominic Raab and Sir Keir Starmer, before settling on Sir David.

Ali, from Kentish Town in north London, denies preparing terrorist acts and murder.

The trial continues.